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Frederick the Great and Other 18th-C Characters, Discussion Post 31
And in this post:
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luzula is going to tell us about the Jacobites and the '45!
-I'm going to finish reading Nancy Goldstone's book about Maria Theresia and (some of) her children Maria Christina, Maria Carolina, and Marie Antoinette, In the Shadow of the Empress, andselenak is going to tell us all the things wrong with the last four chapters (spoiler: in the first twenty chapters there have been many, MANY things wrong)!
-mildred_of_midgard is going to tell us about Charles XII of Sweden and the Great Northern War
(seriously, how did I get so lucky to have all these people Telling Me Things, this is AWESOME)
-oh, and also there will be Yuletide signups :D
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luzula is going to tell us about the Jacobites and the '45!-I'm going to finish reading Nancy Goldstone's book about Maria Theresia and (some of) her children Maria Christina, Maria Carolina, and Marie Antoinette, In the Shadow of the Empress, and
selenak is going to tell us all the things wrong with the last four chapters (spoiler: in the first twenty chapters there have been many, MANY things wrong)!-
mildred_of_midgard is going to tell us about Charles XII of Sweden and the Great Northern War(seriously, how did I get so lucky to have all these people Telling Me Things, this is AWESOME)
-oh, and also there will be Yuletide signups :D
Re: The Great Northern War: Overview
Okay, more detail from Wikipedia. It seems that Sweden declared war in 1741 in league with French diplomats, partly to get back territory that they lost, but more to precipitate that coup you're talking about. Ah, okay, so that makes more sense out of the asking for troops--the regime they declared war on wasn't the same one as the one that lent the troops. But she still didn't give the territory back, which she had apparently promised to do.
Oh hey, and the guy the rebellious Swedish farmers wanted on the throne was the future Peter III.
So the appeal lies in what one could call the "martyr" card or the "aggrieved lost cause" card.
Ah! Yeah, that makes sense (and is of course part of the romanticizing of BPC, as well).
Re: The Great Northern War: Overview
the regime they declared war on wasn't the same one as the one that lent the troops.
The regime they declared war on would have been Anna Leopoldovna acting as regent for her son Ivan VI, on whom see more here and here. (Warning for tragedy.)