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cahnAnd in this post:
-luzula is going to tell us about the Jacobites and the '45!
-I'm going to finish reading Nancy Goldstone's book about Maria Theresia and (some of) her children Maria Christina, Maria Carolina, and Marie Antoinette, In the Shadow of the Empress, andselenak is going to tell us all the things wrong with the last four chapters (spoiler: in the first twenty chapters there have been many, MANY things wrong)!
-mildred_of_midgard is going to tell us about Charles XII of Sweden and the Great Northern War
(seriously, how did I get so lucky to have all these people Telling Me Things, this is AWESOME)
-oh, and also there will be Yuletide signups :D
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luzula is going to tell us about the Jacobites and the '45!-I'm going to finish reading Nancy Goldstone's book about Maria Theresia and (some of) her children Maria Christina, Maria Carolina, and Marie Antoinette, In the Shadow of the Empress, and
selenak is going to tell us all the things wrong with the last four chapters (spoiler: in the first twenty chapters there have been many, MANY things wrong)!-
mildred_of_midgard is going to tell us about Charles XII of Sweden and the Great Northern War(seriously, how did I get so lucky to have all these people Telling Me Things, this is AWESOME)
-oh, and also there will be Yuletide signups :D
Re: The Great Northern War: HolsteinPete connections
Date: 2021-11-05 05:13 am (UTC)OMG this is amazing. Someone (alley_skywalker?) has to write the fandom AU of this :D
One brother was the King of Denmark, and one was the Duke of Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorp. Where is Gottorp, you ask? Gottorp is a castle in the city of Schleswig. Thus Schleswig is a region and a city, Holstein is a region, and Gottorp ("Gottorf") is a castle in one of those regions. "Schleswig-Holstein-Gottorp" is thus a shorthand for "Schleswig-Holstein at Gottorp," which is short for "The Schleswig-Holstein Duchy, as opposed to the royal Schleswig-Holstein area ruled by the kings of Denmark, has its ducal seat at Gottorp."
WHAT. I mean, okay, thanks for explaining that. But WHAT
Charles XII, who was BFFs (lovers?) with his brother-in-law
You... what?! can't just throw out things like that!
4. Selena or I will have to tell you about Pugachev one day.
Yes please! This sounds like good gossipy sensationalism :)
Re: The Great Northern War: HolsteinPete connections
Date: 2021-11-05 10:33 am (UTC)RIGHT? When I realized I needed to understand Schleswig-Holstein to understand the Great Northern War, I sat down with Wikipedia and some books and looked things up and took notes for like 30 minutes until I had it straight in my head. !!
And again, I SIMPLIFIED IT FOR YOU.
You... what?! can't just throw out things like that!
Right, right, thank you for reminding me! I also need to give you the gossipy sensationalism on "the Gottorp fury", i.e., the brother-in-law. (I will warn you that the "lovers" remark basically consists of historians going, "Well, they did the frat boy thing together, and Charles later didn't have sex with women ever, so...if he was gay, then maybe this guy was a candidate?" rather than any actual direct evidence that they were doing anything other than being rowdy teenagers together. But I'll give you some of the crazy stories of what they're supposed to have gotten up to together. Trello note added.)
And I'm throwing things out on purpose in hopes you guys pick up on them, so I can write posts in response to things you've expressed interest in, like A+ tragic minister, as opposed to having to present everything up front. ;)